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	<title>Comments on: Allied Against the Mommy Wars and for LGBT Rights</title>
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		<title>By: The &#34;Mommy Wars,&#34; The Work Force, Gays, etc. &#171; Feminist Housewife</title>
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		<dc:creator>The &#34;Mommy Wars,&#34; The Work Force, Gays, etc. &#171; Feminist Housewife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] check in over at Mombian every now and again, and last night I saw this link under &#8220;Favorite Posts.&#8221; &#8220;Like most observers of a war that doesn’t directly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] check in over at Mombian every now and again, and last night I saw this link under &#8220;Favorite Posts.&#8221; &#8220;Like most observers of a war that doesn’t directly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: APB: Code Pink&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Actions at LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-40287</link>
		<dc:creator>APB: Code Pink&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Actions at LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a Mother&#8217;s Day Call for Bay Areans from the kind of lesbian mom that Sarah Shulman might have been comforted to know about last year, when she misunderestimated (!) the activist capacities of lesbo mums. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s a Mother&#8217;s Day Call for Bay Areans from the kind of lesbian mom that Sarah Shulman might have been comforted to know about last year, when she misunderestimated (!) the activist capacities of lesbo mums. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-4914</link>
		<dc:creator>Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allied Against the Mommy Wars and for LGBT Rights [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2773</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 03:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: our court order: I donated an egg to my partner, which she carried, using anonymous donor sperm. Under then-current NJ law, she would have been the legal parent, not me. This seemed perverse to us, so we found a lawyer with experience in LGBT issues. (I forget where we finally found ours, but you can look through the directories &lt;a href=&quot;http://mombian.com/page/2/directory/legal/#referrals&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

He looked at previous case law and wrote a brief, which he filed with the appropriate judge a few months before our due date. Although there were no clear precedents in our county, there had been a few cases like this in other jurisdictions around the country. We had to show up in court, but knew by then that it was mostly a formality--our lawyer had already been told that the state wouldn&#039;t oppose our petition. Basically, the judge asked us if we knew we&#039;d both be responsible for our child-to-be. We said yes, and he signed the order.

I believe that now, NJ and CA will allow both moms to be put on the birth certificate from day one, without an adoption, even if they don&#039;t go the egg donation route. Check with your own lawyer before assuming this, however. I&#039;m not sure of all the details.

I would imagine that this would be very difficult to do in Florida, but best of luck if you give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: our court order: I donated an egg to my partner, which she carried, using anonymous donor sperm. Under then-current NJ law, she would have been the legal parent, not me. This seemed perverse to us, so we found a lawyer with experience in LGBT issues. (I forget where we finally found ours, but you can look through the directories <a href="http://mombian.com/page/2/directory/legal/#referrals" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>He looked at previous case law and wrote a brief, which he filed with the appropriate judge a few months before our due date. Although there were no clear precedents in our county, there had been a few cases like this in other jurisdictions around the country. We had to show up in court, but knew by then that it was mostly a formality&#8211;our lawyer had already been told that the state wouldn&#8217;t oppose our petition. Basically, the judge asked us if we knew we&#8217;d both be responsible for our child-to-be. We said yes, and he signed the order.</p>
<p>I believe that now, NJ and CA will allow both moms to be put on the birth certificate from day one, without an adoption, even if they don&#8217;t go the egg donation route. Check with your own lawyer before assuming this, however. I&#8217;m not sure of all the details.</p>
<p>I would imagine that this would be very difficult to do in Florida, but best of luck if you give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: FloridaLesbian</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2768</link>
		<dc:creator>FloridaLesbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog that is refreshing. Well done. Quick follow up question: How did you get a court order stating you are both the legal parents? Kudos to you. Florida is so awfully backward but I appreciate your willingness to share your information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog that is refreshing. Well done. Quick follow up question: How did you get a court order stating you are both the legal parents? Kudos to you. Florida is so awfully backward but I appreciate your willingness to share your information.</p>
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		<title>By: Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Book Review: Single by Chance, Mothers by Choice</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Book Review: Single by Chance, Mothers by Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hertz then looks at the women’s lives after their children arrived, and how they balance parenting, work, and romance. These single moms are, by necessity, underscoring the need for flexible work and childcare options, topics of growing interest especially since the (unfortunate) media hype over the “Mommy Wars.” Instead of leading the charge as activists, however, they are finding their own alliances and exchanges that enable them to maintain a middle-class lifestyle, drawing upon gift givers, roommates, and careworkers in ways that coupled parents do not. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hertz then looks at the women’s lives after their children arrived, and how they balance parenting, work, and romance. These single moms are, by necessity, underscoring the need for flexible work and childcare options, topics of growing interest especially since the (unfortunate) media hype over the “Mommy Wars.” Instead of leading the charge as activists, however, they are finding their own alliances and exchanges that enable them to maintain a middle-class lifestyle, drawing upon gift givers, roommates, and careworkers in ways that coupled parents do not. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1418</link>
		<dc:creator>LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had to add an emphasis on the &quot;exceedingly astute&quot; clipped (by the track back robot thingy?) above.  I, as a chronically long-winded person, am so grateful for your incisive analysis.  Its the maraschino cherry atop the daily sundae you serve up, heaping scoops culled from electronic and print media that will help us all, with heart and mind together, do our best work as parents, as change agents, and everything in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to add an emphasis on the &#8220;exceedingly astute&#8221; clipped (by the track back robot thingy?) above.  I, as a chronically long-winded person, am so grateful for your incisive analysis.  Its the maraschino cherry atop the daily sundae you serve up, heaping scoops culled from electronic and print media that will help us all, with heart and mind together, do our best work as parents, as change agents, and everything in between.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommy wars, the lesbian episode, part 1: a wee bit of history at LesbianDad</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2006/07/30/allied-against-the-mommy-wars-and-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommy wars, the lesbian episode, part 1: a wee bit of history at LesbianDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Had I read it, I would have noticed this piece by Anemona Hartocollis, on the anti- or a-gay marriage strain in LGBT community. I was alerted to its existence by Mombian’s exceedingly astute post in response to it. She includes Sarah Schulman&#8217;s statement from the piece, in which she voices a concern that “lesbian mothers are embracing a ‘poverty model’ and taking themselves out of the running to be the next George Sand or Emma Goldman.” Mombian urges us to “stop the lesbian version of the Mommy Wars before it starts,” to which I say: Here here! I march behind you, Sister Rudolph, in the quest for some kind of lesbo common ground that’s high enough to avoid the skanky jetsam of what I thought was merely the (hetero) mommy wars. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Had I read it, I would have noticed this piece by Anemona Hartocollis, on the anti- or a-gay marriage strain in LGBT community. I was alerted to its existence by Mombian’s exceedingly astute post in response to it. She includes Sarah Schulman&#8217;s statement from the piece, in which she voices a concern that “lesbian mothers are embracing a ‘poverty model’ and taking themselves out of the running to be the next George Sand or Emma Goldman.” Mombian urges us to “stop the lesbian version of the Mommy Wars before it starts,” to which I say: Here here! I march behind you, Sister Rudolph, in the quest for some kind of lesbo common ground that’s high enough to avoid the skanky jetsam of what I thought was merely the (hetero) mommy wars. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  I am a work at home mom who sends her kid to daycare, so I piss off both sides of the arguement .  It&#039;s such a waste of time and energy to engage in mommy-bashing and our community in particular has better things to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I am a work at home mom who sends her kid to daycare, so I piss off both sides of the arguement .  It&#8217;s such a waste of time and energy to engage in mommy-bashing and our community in particular has better things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post.  I agree so much that I wish I&#039;d written that myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post.  I agree so much that I wish I&#8217;d written that myself!</p>
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