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	<title>Comments on: Gay Weddings in the UK: Quote, Unquote</title>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2005/12/21/gay-weddings-in-the-uk-quote-unquote/comment-page-1/#comment-7919</link>
		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have a little difficulty with this one. I&#039;m a conservative, with fairly well thought out views, that have been a long time developing, as the debate has been going on for quite some years over gay rights and then formalized homosexual unions. My own daughter is getting married to a fine young doctor in just under four months, and I&#039;ve been thinking about the rightness of how they established their friendship and love over the past year and are conducting themselves into married life together now. They&#039;ll be married in a church, which I am happy about, although the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.riccartonpark.co.nz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wedding reception&lt;/a&gt; may well be in a secular setting. That&#039;s fine. I came across William Butler Yeats on his &#039;unknown instructors&#039; last night and I think it has some bearing on how I feel on this issue. 

Yeats says:

&quot;What they undertook to do they brought to pass. All things hang like a drop of dew upon a blade of grass.&quot;

You like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have a little difficulty with this one. I&#8217;m a conservative, with fairly well thought out views, that have been a long time developing, as the debate has been going on for quite some years over gay rights and then formalized homosexual unions. My own daughter is getting married to a fine young doctor in just under four months, and I&#8217;ve been thinking about the rightness of how they established their friendship and love over the past year and are conducting themselves into married life together now. They&#8217;ll be married in a church, which I am happy about, although the <a href="http://www.riccartonpark.co.nz" rel="nofollow">wedding reception</a> may well be in a secular setting. That&#8217;s fine. I came across William Butler Yeats on his &#8216;unknown instructors&#8217; last night and I think it has some bearing on how I feel on this issue. </p>
<p>Yeats says:</p>
<p>&#8220;What they undertook to do they brought to pass. All things hang like a drop of dew upon a blade of grass.&#8221;</p>
<p>You like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Marital Bliss, Part III</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2005/12/21/gay-weddings-in-the-uk-quote-unquote/comment-page-1/#comment-6918</link>
		<dc:creator>Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Marital Bliss, Part III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farther afield, the BBC News yesterday highlighted a lesbian couple in South Africa who want to be among the first to marry under the country&#8217;s Civil Union bill, passed two days ago. Note, however, the BBC&#8217;s use of the terms &#8220;marry&#8221; and &#8220;wedding&#8221; even though the legislation is for &#8220;civil unions.&#8221; The term &#8220;marriage&#8221; is so powerful (as I&#8217;ve said before) that its verb and associated vocabulary even creep in where there was a deliberate effort made to keep it out. It&#8217;s also interesting that the Beeb chose not to put &#8220;marry&#8221; and &#8220;wedding&#8221; in quotes (though I&#8217;m doing so here in citing them), when only a short year ago, they felt it was necessary to use them when speaking about same-sex ceremonies in their home country. Progress, one punctuation mark at a time. [My error. Although the bill that South Africa passed is named the &#8220;Civil Union Act,&#8221; it authorizes the &#8220;voluntary union of two persons, which is solemnized and registered by either a marriage or civil union.&#8221;] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Farther afield, the BBC News yesterday highlighted a lesbian couple in South Africa who want to be among the first to marry under the country&#8217;s Civil Union bill, passed two days ago. Note, however, the BBC&#8217;s use of the terms &#8220;marry&#8221; and &#8220;wedding&#8221; even though the legislation is for &#8220;civil unions.&#8221; The term &#8220;marriage&#8221; is so powerful (as I&#8217;ve said before) that its verb and associated vocabulary even creep in where there was a deliberate effort made to keep it out. It&#8217;s also interesting that the Beeb chose not to put &#8220;marry&#8221; and &#8220;wedding&#8221; in quotes (though I&#8217;m doing so here in citing them), when only a short year ago, they felt it was necessary to use them when speaking about same-sex ceremonies in their home country. Progress, one punctuation mark at a time. [My error. Although the bill that South Africa passed is named the &#8220;Civil Union Act,&#8221; it authorizes the &#8220;voluntary union of two persons, which is solemnized and registered by either a marriage or civil union.&#8221;] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2005/12/21/gay-weddings-in-the-uk-quote-unquote/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Political Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still, as I&#8217;ve explained before, a civil partnership is still not the same as a marriage. It reduces journalists to using quotation marks in silly places (&quot;Minister announces gay &#8216;wedding&#8217;&quot;) and still has the feel of a second-class category. This is not to disparage those who are publicly taking the steps they can to celebrate their relationships and secure their rights as couples. Someday maybe your civil partnerships will simply be called marriages, full stop.    by D &#124; posted in Politics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Still, as I&#8217;ve explained before, a civil partnership is still not the same as a marriage. It reduces journalists to using quotation marks in silly places (&quot;Minister announces gay &#8216;wedding&#8217;&quot;) and still has the feel of a second-class category. This is not to disparage those who are publicly taking the steps they can to celebrate their relationships and secure their rights as couples. Someday maybe your civil partnerships will simply be called marriages, full stop.    by D | posted in Politics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Same-Sex Couples in UK Can Now Adopt</title>
		<link>http://www.mombian.com/2005/12/21/gay-weddings-in-the-uk-quote-unquote/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Mombian: Sustenance for Lesbian Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Same-Sex Couples in UK Can Now Adopt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now if only they&#8217;d call same-sex &#8220;civil partnerships&#8221; marriages. . . . Let&#8217;s hope for continued progress towards equal rights in 2006.     by D  @ 3:25 pm. Filed under Uncategorized          &#160; [link] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now if only they&#8217;d call same-sex &#8220;civil partnerships&#8221; marriages. . . . Let&#8217;s hope for continued progress towards equal rights in 2006.     by D  @ 3:25 pm. Filed under Uncategorized          &nbsp; [link] [...]</p>
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